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The Material Girl let a pretty juicy secret slip in the newest episode of James Corden’s Carpool Karaoke, one that she’d apparently only ever told one other friend. Well, now we all know that Madonna and her late friend Michael Jackson took their relationship out of the friend zone, at least for a hot minute.

According to M herself, she and Michael Jackson made out back in the day.

“Yeah, tongue-in-mouth kissing,” she admits when Corden’s jaw drops. He then asks her who made the first move. “Well I did, if you want to know the truth, because he’s a little bit shy,” she says. “However, he was a willing accomplice–I did get him to sort of loosen up with a glass of Chardonnay.”

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It does make us a little uncomfortable picturing it, but, hey, it’s Madonna and discomfort is part of the package. Besides, MJ was legit pretty cute back then.

Real talk tho: Madonna is so viscerally sexual that we bet she could convince the Queen of England to share a kiss with her. It’s lucky James told her he was married when he did, otherwise we’re pretty sure they would’ve ended up necking…just a little bit.

Also, is it possible that Madonna is getting more attractive? She’s still badass, unbuckling her seatbelt to thrust the lower half of her body out the window in downtown New York. She’s still stylish as hell–those gloves and those heels! And she’s still sooo flexible–we could most certainly not get one leg up on the ceiling like that, let alone both.

Corden and Madge rocked through the decades of exceptional Madonna music, belting out ‘Papa Don’t Preach’, ‘Express Yourself’, ‘Vogue’, ‘Ray of Light’, ‘Music’, ‘Bitch I’m Madonna’ (cue the twerking), and ‘Don’t Cry For Me Argentina’ from the musical Evita.

M has obviously still got the singing chops and the dance moves. Her voice, which often sounds manufactured on the radio, shines through in a big way in the passenger seat. And her Vogueing, well that’s about as good as it’s ever been.

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