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Saturday night was the premier of CNN commentator Van Jones’ new weekly show and he started things off with a bang: a Shawn “Jay Z” Carter interview and a subsequent Donald Trump feud. Well, at least it means the president is watching your show. Jones had some pressing questions for the rapper/businessman about the president/businessman currently in the White House. Jay had some insights, but they obviously weren’t to Donald Trump’s liking.

Jones first asked Jay about the president’s alleged comments earlier this month calling Haiti and African countries “sh*tholes.”

“It’s disappointing and it’s hurtful. It really is hurtful, more so,” Jay Z said, “Everyone feels anger but after the anger it’s really hurtful because it’s like looking down on a whole population of people. And you’re so misinformed because these places have beautiful people and have beautiful everything.

“This is the leader of the free world speaking like this,” he continued, “But on the other side, this has been going on. This is how people talk. This is how they talk behind closed doors.” He went on to equate Trump’s comments to former-LA Clippers owner Donald Sterling being outed as racist by tapes of his private conversations. Retributions like Sterling losing his NBA team are punishment for one person, but they don’t fix anything. Jay Z advocates for opening a dialogue rather than glossing over the situation.

“What you’ve done is sprayed perfume on the trashcan,” he said, “And what you do when you do that is: the bugs come and you spray something, and then they come and you create a superbug. Because you don’t take care of the problem. You don’t take the trash out; you keep spraying whatever over it to make it acceptable and then as those things grow, you create a superbug. And now we have Donald Trump, the superbug.” He added that he understands that the president’s intolerance comes from a deeply buried pain (like most intolerance and bullying).

“I’m being funny but somewhere along his lineage, something happened to him,” Jay mused, “Something happened to him and he’s in pain and expressing it in this sort of way.”

Jones also asked if it was okay for Trump to “say terrible things but put money in our pockets” in reference to Trump’s recent claims that the African American unemployment rate is at a record low. Jay replied that while jobs and money might fix things for a while, he would rather have respect.

“It’s not about money at the end of the day,” he said, “Money doesn’t equate to happiness. It doesn’t. That’s missing the whole point.

“You treat people like human beings. That’s the main point. It goes back to the whole thing — ‘Treat me really bad and pay me well.’ It’s not going to lead to happiness, it’s going to lead to, again, the same thing. Everyone’s going to be sick.”

Trump fires back

The next morning, Donald Trump fired back at Jay Z a la NFL athletes kneeling for the national anthem. His main theme, like it was then, is that Jay should be grateful for all this president and this country has done for him and other black Americans. Trump again reiterated that the black unemployment rate is at a record low. You know, the point that Jay Z already countered by saying the number doesn’t matter if there’s no respect. Van Jones tweeted the video again in case Trump missed it the first time.

Don Jr. also weighed in

Then, for some reason, Donny Jr. felt compelled to address the same thing. After toting his father’s economic successes, he went in for the character attack. He retweeted a short gif of Jay Z shoving a woman with no context. Yes, the footage has a startling violence to it, but people were quick to point out the hypocrisy in bringing up any disrespect other people might have for women when the president was caught on tape admitting to sexual harassment.

Will Jay Z respond or be the bigger man? Who knows, but if things get more out of hand, the Grammys have shown us that we can trust Blue Ivy to keep things under control.