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One of Amazing Race Canada‘s father-daughter duos was forced to bow out of the race on Wednesday night following a grueling decision that came back to kick them in the arse. Former CFL player Neil Lumsden and his daughter Kristin finished fourth in Saskatoon, but thanks to a time penalty they took during a dizzying flight path challenge they had to wait it out and wound up finishing minutes after the race’s other father-daughter duo, Simi and Ope.

Meanwhile, brothers Brent and Sean won big thanks to their clever use of an Express Pass, and all on Brent’s birthday.

The Loop caught up with Neil and Kristin the morning after their big elimination to get the details of what went wrong and where they go from here.

When Jon called you over to the mat did you still have hope or did you know you were done for?
Kristin: We had a pretty good feeling that that was it, mainly because if you skip back to three episodes earlier when we shared the mat with Simi and Ope and it was the continue racing… I was thinking man, we didn’t have a ton of luck on the race but if we would have wanted that luck it would have been then. Man we would have loved to have raced to India with all those guys.

Have you been to any trampoline parks since then?
Kristin: Maybe for dad’s birthday in December we’ll throw him a party at a trampoline place.

Neil: I just keep driving every time I see one.

After hugging it out, what was the first thing you guys did post-elimination?
Kristin: Slept! Definitely sleep and food were priority No. 1. But right after when we walked away we had some really nice emotional moments and just reflected upon the great things that we did that I think really made us who we were on the race. But sleep and eat were on the top of the list.

Neil: I’d add to that, bags of ice on knees and hamstrings. I would throw the ice in there as well.

What was it about that flight path challenge that was so hard?
Kristin: I can’t even explain to you what was hard because I still don’t get it.

Neil: Everyone struggled with the concept of it, and there were four teams that started making sense of it in creating the hours that you needed to add up to, and we actually got up to I think 23.5 at some point. And then the game changed a little bit because when the flights take off you have to take it off the board. It was a bit of a scramble. Now that we’ve watched the show we see do total minutes, not hours. That was probably the best way to do it, but we were all a little dazed and confused for a bit.

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What kind of reaction have you guys been getting as a father daughter team on the race?
Kristin: We’ve had really great reactions, it makes me really happy to know that people enjoyed watching us and enjoyed our relationship and took something from it. Or maybe had a giggle at some of the things we said and did. We just wanted to have a really good time and have people enjoy watching us. It seems like they did.

Neil: The reality is that it was fabulous. It was not about the father-daughter per se, it was about two people that have a very strong connection and a very strong relationship that happened to be a father and daughter that respect each other and it was as much fun for me to sit back and watch Kristin grow and develop out of this environment, which she hadn’t been in in a long time. This kind of competition does a lot to you and you either learn from it or it beats you up. In this situation we both learned from it and are better as a result. You can’t even look at a challenge and have that sort of be the end of you, no matter if it’s business or sport. It doesn’t matter what it is. The opportunity we had to face this head on together as a team was just spectacular.

What was your proudest moment?
Kristin: What it really came down to was working as a team and we always really succeeded at that. Working as a team in Argentina, having some laughs and working really well as a team in Sudbury. Being able to walk away and be very proud with how we were and how we treated each other, that was very true to who we were as people. But man we had some really high moments. Those will last a lifetime.

What about your not-so-proudest moment?
Kristin: Well there were a few! It’s not easy knowing that people in your country are going to see you at one of your worst moments and be very vulnerable for people to judge you or call you a wimp or make fun of you because you’re crying. That’s very new for me to experience that and that was tough. It’s tough to be vulnerable to people, let alone to millions of people.

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What did you learn about each other through all of this?
Kristin: My father is the most patient man — besides my boyfriend. He’s very patient, very loving and very kind. Those were all great qualities in a teammate.

Neil: People go through their lives and look for opportunities or moments to have special situations and challenges and successes and failures to share it with people. I got to do it for a long period of time with Kristin that allowed me just to have these experiences that very few people will ever have. I feel badly for people that didn’t get a chance to do what I did with my daughter.

Is there anything you would have done differently looking back?
Kristin: If anything we would have taken the penalty when the other team took it. That might be the only thing. I get my dad’s strategic motive in taking the penalty. I may not have agreed with it at the time but I definitely see it now. We just would have taken it sooner.

Now that you’re out who would you like to see win?
Neil: For me it’s not about wanting to see anybody. I can now sit on a couch and firsthand know how difficult this race is and have an appreciation for their struggles. I think that again, there are so many ifs — more than anything else I’ve ever been involved in — I think let the best team, with the most luck on their side, win.

Kristin: We wish the best to every team going forward, but all-in-all it’s like, whoever gets to that finish line just deserves all of the credit in the world because it is a grind.

Why should fans vote for you in the Fuel Your Team fan challenge?
Kristin: Because we’re going to ask nicely? If you enjoyed us as a team and you enjoyed watching us and follow us on social media, please vote. That would mean a lot to us — not even the prize, but just to know that people enjoyed watching us. Fan favourite… man that would be really appreciated.

Neil: You can’t compare winning the race and the fan favourite, but to get a sense that people understood us and respected what we did, even if they didn’t agree with us, that would be awesome.

The Amazing Race Canada airs Wednesdays at 9 p.m. ET on CTV.