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They say you should never meet your heroes, and in the case of Jerry Seinfeld, you definitely shouldn’t ask them for a hug. This was a lesson singer Kesha learned after meeting the famous comedian on Monday night in Washington at the David Lynch Foundation’s National Night of Laughter and Song.

The two celebs were on the red carpet at the charity event when the cringe-worthy interaction occurred.

In a scenario with a hug requester and a hug denier there are two sides to take and we see both parties’ issues with the interaction.

For Seinfeld, the comedian was in the middle of an interview on a red carpet, a notoriously loud and sometimes chaotic place to be. Being interrupted by someone you’ve never met can be startling, although we have a feeling this is not the first time Seinfeld has met a fan. He’s kinda popular.

Still, we understand his hesitation to hug a complete stranger. Is this someone who has broken into the event uninvited? Is it another guest who has opposing political views and someone that Seinfeld does not want to be photographed embracing? Could she be wearing a perfume that Seinfeld is allergic to and he’ll spend the rest of the evening sniffling? The explanations have varying degrees of severity, but we do know that if the genders were reversed we likely would not be questioning a woman not wanting to hug a man she’s never met.

Now for team Kesha. Approaching someone you admire, and telling them you love them is a pretty nerve-wracking experience. Having them repeatedly deny your request for a hug while on camera can be pretty embarrassing. While Kesha’s request may seem quite forward and shocking at first, it is important to note that there was likely security at this event and only celebs were walking the red carpet. Kesha didn’t run up to Jerry Seinfeld in a dark alley with no witnesses around and demand physical affection. She requested a hug in a very well-lit and controlled area. Couldn’t he at least have shaken her hand? Maybe just a fist bump or a high five? Is that really too much to ask?

Thankfully, Kesha doesn’t seem too bothered by the interaction, posting this smiling picture on her social media account. We’ll give you a hug, Kesha.